[情報] Pablo Torre爆料快艇避稅爭議

作者: gaiaesque (請不要叫偶解釋偶der暱稱)   2026-08-08 22:40:42
消息來源:(網址或出處)
https://x.com/dpshow/status/2085765411182977164
內容:
"I think there's a very real chance that Steve Ballmer emerges relatively
unscathed."
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@PabloTorre on the possible fallout from the Kawhi Leonard situation.
Dan Patrick:Any chance Steve Ballmer is in jeopardy of losing the Clippers,
being able to own them?
Steve Ballmer 有任何失去快艇隊經營權、無法繼續擁有球隊 Clippers 的風險嗎?
Pablo Torre:I think the question is an Adam Silver question, right? And this
is what's so interesting.
我想這個問題關鍵在於 Adam Silver,對吧?這也是最有趣的地方。
Adam Silver is not his mentor, David Stern. Adam Silver is actually the guy
who welcomed Steve Ballmer in, in replacement of Donald Sterling, and was
hailed as this almost Aristotelian, brilliant, progressive leader in
comparison to all the other commissioners, Roger Goodell, namely, at that
time.
Adam Silver 並不像他的導師 David Stern。Adam Silver 實際上是在接替 Donald
Sterling 時親自歡迎 Steve Ballmer 加入的人,當時他還被讚譽為與其他聯盟主席(特
別是當時的 Roger Goodell)相比,幾乎是一位具有亞里斯多德哲學智慧、卓越且前衛進
步的領導者。
And so now he is bookending, perhaps, his tenure with the same guy being an
even bigger problem, a complicated problem.
而現在,他可能要在他任期的尾聲,面對當年同一個人變成一個更大、更棘手的難題。
And so if you're Adam Silver, and in 2019 when you cleared the Clippers and
Steve Ballmer of cap circumvention after investigating the Raptors' claims
and the Lakers' claims...
所以如果你是 Adam Silver,且在 2019 年調查了暴龍隊與湖人隊的指控後,宣告快艇隊
和 Steve Ballmer 並未違反薪資上限規定……
...what you have done, by the way, on the record, is say salary cap
circumvention is the cardinal rule of the NBA.
順帶一提,你在公開紀錄上所做的是宣稱「規避薪資上限是違反 NBA 的首要核心鐵律」

And I think underpinning all of this then, the moment we're in with sports
gambling, as the NBA balances a gambling scandal and investigation that we've
been covering on the show as well...
我想在這背後支撐著一切的,包含我們現在所處的體育運彩時代——因為 NBA 目前也在
權衡我們節目一直在報導的博彩醜聞與調查……
...when they're balancing all of the other cap circumvention theories out
there—Gary Trent Jr. just being the latest hypothesis someone has—is the
question of whether the rules matter.
……當他們在權衡外界所有其他規避薪資上限的假說時(Gary Trent Jr. 只是最新被大
家推測的一個例子),核心問題就在於:這些規則到底還算不算數?
And if you break the rules, as have been alleged by multiple episodes here of
my show and now elsewhere, the question is, how do you possibly make it so
that the cardinal rule is actually treated like it?
而如果你違反了規則(正如我節目多集內容以及現在其他媒體所指控的),問題是:你到
底要如何才能讓這條「核心鐵律」真正被當作鐵律來對待?
And so by any standard of fake NBA law—because these are all fake laws,
these are all collectively bargained rules that you gotta enforce—I think
everything should be on the table.
因此,以「假性 NBA 法律」的任何標準來看——因為這些都不是真正的法律,這些只是
你們必須執行的勞資集體協議規則——我認為所有懲罰選項都應該放在談判桌上討論。
Realistically, in terms of the money, and if you follow it, I think there's a
very real chance that Steve Ballmer emerges relatively unscathed, which is
kind of insane to me, of course.
但現實點來說,從資金的角度來看,如果你順著金錢軌跡追查下去,我認為 Steve
Ballmer 很有可能最終毫髮無傷地過關,這對我來說當然有點不可思議。
https://i.urusai.cc/ZuaMD.mp4
心得
DAJ 2015也被Lexus提供贊助
當時Ballmer就被罰了25萬鎂
慣犯又如何
人家NBA大老闆呢
你一個小小阿銀能幹嘛呢?
讓你罰個50 100萬
我避稅省下來的更多呢
讓你罰啊
作者: pagenotfound (404 not found)   2026-08-08 22:47:00
查無不法,下一位
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:06:00
聯盟官方不敢得罪大球隊老闆 可以專門處罰球員 被抓到合約暗盤球員禁賽二年+現行合約作廢 只要讓球員不敢拿暗盤合約 自然可以有效解決問題甚至球員累積年資歸零重新計算 球星更不可能冒著風險多拿暗盤的利益一定的啊 球隊老闆若是Savor這種 Silver早就懲處
作者: RandyOrlando (蘭迪)   2026-08-08 23:17:00
要效仿也要有快艇老闆的等級阿
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:20:00
在場上打球的是球員 官方不敢開罰球隊老闆 那就專門規定懲罰球員也行
作者: siegfriedlin (齊格飛)   2026-08-08 23:23:00
認真問一下當年如果不額外給錢挖得到可愛嗎就只有帳面上的合約
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:25:00
2019暑假 可愛一定會和大城市球隊簽約即使沒給暗盤 可愛很可能還是落腳快艇他應該不會想去湖人屈居老詹之下
作者: pagenotfound (404 not found)   2026-08-09 00:24:00
在Ballmer沒有辭去NBA審計委員會主席之前,我都認為這是雷聲大雨聲小
作者: airash800513 (蒼茫)   2026-08-09 03:39:00
阿銀現在遇到的困難我是覺得,證據不夠有力,可愛有拿不合理的種樹合約是事實好了,但最難舉證的還是這是快艇給的,阿銀終止現有合約的話,球員工會一定會站出來反抗,然後還會面臨場外訴訟,我是感覺阿銀法律戰會打輸可愛,導致這5000萬變聯盟出,球賽長期被禁賽也會被球員工會出來申訴的,感覺只能在2029新勞資協議,加強補丁了
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-09 09:19:00
Ballmer有帶領一些球隊老闆投資賺錢 所以支持他很正常
作者: siegfriedlin (齊格飛)   2026-08-09 09:39:00
現在是真的還在調查還是在喬?

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